Seeking Wisdom and Navigating through Life's Decisions

hey guys welcome to another mini abbreviated version of rebuilding life after addiction Rob and I had a few minutes while we're waiting on a guest so we decided to get in a second episode in one day which is phenomenal on so thank you guys so much for tuning in and being a part of the podcast and following along again if you're new here YouTube hit subscribe if you're listening on the audio Please Subscribe and give us a review as well so that we can continue to get this thing out to more people I'm trying to do better remembering to say that every time Rob I struggle sometimes I always forget yeah but how are you doing man dude I'm doing really good started a new Endeavor just being a financial advisor I'm still in solar but really just starting to Pivot to be able to help families prepare for retirement and just put their money in the right vehicle been able to stay at home more spend more time with the kids help the wife out around the house and just be like a stay-at-home dad in the well in a sense that's been pretty man and if y'all need to get some information on retirement and insurance and all that jazz Rob is your guy his profile will be in the description so hit the link send them a DM and let them hook you up man Rob is on Rob's the real deal as you guys have heard and he'll take good care of you I'm going to do the pitch for you since you're humble so man no it's been a crazy week it's only Thursday but it's been fun it's just that pace it's that time of year that whole work life balance thing I noticed it comes and waves and so I think there'll be weeks where we hustle and it's really hard and there'll be weeks where it's chill and right now it's just a few of those weeks where it's a lot of hustle I was thinking about the scripture today man there's wisdom and a multitude of counsel and that idea of we talked about fellowship and relationships in the last episode and that was a really good conversation but I was thinking about this idea of there's a wi wisdom and a multitude of counsil and how people are either two extremes there are people who do it healthy but I've seen two extremes where people just don't ask any counsel right and they do everything on their own which sometimes leads to blind spots and failures and mistakes right but then the other side where we're not really seeking wisdom but we're seeking a bunch of counsel to find the answer that we're looking for right instead of just trusting that sometimes finding wisdom in a multitude of counil means hearing things that we don't necessarily always want to hear and I think I've sometimes per just speaking personally I think sometimes I've gone to too many people in a sense like I have good people in my life that I talk to but I think sometimes I have like maybe Bel labored making a decision and used the excuse of I'm getting more CS to delay the inevitable especially if it's a hard thing to do and I just thought that was an interesting topic to dive into and get your feedback how do you handle getting counsel and direction from people for decisions and on being able to have some folks help validate really what God's doing in you and the direction and the path that you're taking yeah man that's actually a really good question what I've learned and discovered over the years even is I'm going to shout out Brian Patrick so if you ever listened to this there's a lot of respect on your name because you've taught me a lot when it comes to this but often at times we have this idea in our mind that God is not sovereign right and so we make the decisions or we have choices and decisions that we make on a daily that we don't really get counsel or wisdom on but God is very good at utilizing our decision making and our choices that we pursue whether it's career path whether it's marriage whatever and he'll utilize it right and for his glory for his good and so I'm not saying that you should never ask for wisdom or never ask for counsel but one thing I've learned is that God has a way of still blessing even the mistakes that you might make if you don't get the proper wisdom and counsel it's essentially what I'm getting at but for me personally man what I've learned man is that I often have to not just share the Insight with the people that I know that are going to agree with me so I have a really good friend back home in Florida he drives for UPS Jamal love the guy but man it's funny like I was telling him the other day that it's hard for me to call him sometimes because he's going to give me the wisdom that I don't want to hear he's going to give me the counsel that I don't want to hear but it's necessary for me because it's what gets me to begin to think in a more mature manner right and I think often at times we just have these people in our Circle in our sphere of influence in our proximity that we desire to just hang around that's going to always give us the answers that we want in the reality is man is that we can't always just have those friends right I think there's different levels of friendships as we've mentioned before in the past and often at times it's really just about being intentional about building those relationships and asking ourselves the question who are we going to allow to pour into our life and who are the people that we do go to when we do need that counsel right but if you try to ask everybody Under the Sun then that's a bad thing but I think you should have a select few people that you would go to on a regular to get that wisdom and counsel from that have different backgrounds and walks of life yeah that's really good yeah I think that's so was there a Tipping Point for you where going back to recovery like early on in our recovery we're very like that close proximity to people that are helping to keep us inside the boundaries is extremely important right because we it's almost like growing up we need more supervision when we're children in the faith and then as we mature we can sit down and eat a steak without choking and dying so was there a Tipping Point for you where you this confidence began to arise in you and I know I can make these decisions on my own now I don't need to rely on my accountability so heavy versus I still need this assist what I'm saying no that's a really good point that you brought up man my background in my past was me making all the decisions myself so I never really knew how to really ask for wisdom or guidance to begin with and so for me I thought that I always had the best answer and even to this day I often still lean on my own understanding right and so it's trust in the Lord lean not on your own understanding and acknowledge him in all thine ways and he will direct your steps and so there's a big key here that wisdom is the beginning of wisdom right as the scripture tells us Lord or is the fear of the Lord right and so the fear of the Lord is reverences all of who he is and so thank you for helping me out there I just have hung twist I'm hearing my kids in the background and I'm like What's the scripture here so anyways yeah but having that fear having that reverence having that awe of who God is allowing God to be the center of your life and as a Believer and I've been saved for many years but you often don't hear this message PR preached enough within the body of Christ is the lordship of Christ in your life and so we want to have our way right often at times we might get counsel from people but the counsel that we get from people is often stem from their experience in life which is a good thing it's not a bad thing but is it the heart of God concerning your man and so for me man I look at these things and I'm like man it's been hard for me because I look at different people and especially for me it's you got the calvinist you got the Baptist you got all these different people and I respect all of these individuals that are fellow are followers of Christ but at the same time I can be reluctant to ask them for wisdom because I know their background or I know their past or I know their upbringing if that makes any sense and so I've always just stuck to myself man and I've had this like fear of somebody telling me something that I don't want to hear because I've done it for so many years on my own I don't really know how to receive from others at times and I have people like you and like I said my friend back in Florida that I can receive from but it's a very select few including my wife but I just don't go to a lot of people and I have trust issues man and so that's a lot of my problem if I'm honest what about you yeah I think I'm probably the opposite I probably overdo it sometimes and it's really avoidance right it's avoidance on making the decision and and I've recognized that in my life a lot because I'm an outward processor so a lot of times and I'm open to receive counsel don't get me wrong but I tend to process through problems and people will you and I've talked before about stuff right and people will give me tidbits along the way and it almost redirects my processing to the right direction and because I'm the type of person that like if I can be tricked into thinking it was my idea that I'm going to be that much more passionate about it and but yeah but it is that Journey that sometimes like not everybody's safe to process with and that's a lesson that I've had to learn because I yeah man I don't want to call it navity but I try to believe the best and just think that mean just not everybody has the spiritual maturity to be able to handle our processing and handle our junk and so there well no and so there is that being able to deern that and knowing that in Galatians 6 right you who are spiritual restore right like it you who are spiritual so you're going back to what you said about the fear of the Lord right if we're not processing or getting wisdom from somebody who is spiritually M mature like again last week's conversation with the fellowship what do they really have to offer us right that's why I always equate my I always say that my life is like Moses never really found myself qualified or gifted enough to be able to do what I did or can do because of the the ability what the Lord might see and others see often at times and I'm just like yeah I'm great I'm glad that you see this gifting that I have but I'm not going to pursue it like I'll stay in the background and like hey I'm fine over here turn the sheet with nobody looking so but who was it's his father-in-law Jethro right that said hey dude you're doing this thing all wrong when it comes to leaving these people and you're trying to handle all of this on your own and so what did he do he got 70 elders to help him with the chaos that he was trying to deal with but see in the passage of scripture God ended up Moses didn't really seek this out if I recall correctly God utilized Jethro in that moment to speak into Moses's life and say hey look you need to do this right and then begin to implement these things and sometimes you need those individuals in your life that are just going to tell you point blank period this is what you need to do what because they have that age they have that wisdom they have that understanding that knowledge and so those are the people that I tend to go on okay what's behind door number three now I don't like what door number two had to offer and yeah I think to man it's it's the acceptance Factor right like how do you learn to accept something like you mentioned when the idea is not my own how do I learn to accept something else that I didn't hear God on but you did that's the worst when someone Lord told me this about you I'm like okay tell me like how did he talking to yeah like who like where are we at so but I know in obedience in some of the moments man I've been so blessed just to be able to be a student and listen and I think we should forever be a student when it comes to wanting counseling wisdom from others and not be the individual that thinks that they know it all yeah for sure and so I think sometimes it's really letting go of all pride and arrogance right because Pride come up before the fall and I think it goes coincide it coincides with what we're talking about right what's to come what's happening in the future right if we don't have that wisdom if we don't have that counsel how are we going to navigate through these things in life so I think it's important that we find those individuals that we can connect with that are going to give us that so there is that though that reality of there are going to be moments when we miss God right and we don't hear him correctly or we maybe interpret his word wrong in regards to making a decision and that's okay and we have people to help point that out but I would say that maybe there's probably a course correction in our walk necessary if we're missing God and we're having to be corrected more than we've got people in our lives that are counseling us and confirming that what we say is lining up with the scripture right that would go back to the personal spiritual maturity problem right if I'm thinking of this correctly then it would be like okay I'll miss God from time to time yes I make foolish decisions get out ahead of the Lord or whatever and my wisdom and counsel in my life will help me course correct when that happens but a lot of times like I find that in my personal is I'm praying I'm seeking the Lord I'm in the word and it's a big decision and I'm hitting counsel up to make sure that I'm interpreting what I'm hearing from God correctly that my doctrine's not all jacked up that I'm not just isoing the text all over the table like I am like I'm seeing this correctly and I'm and my counsil is there almost to help and even refine have you thought about going this direction which will get you to the same destination versus yeah that was just me processing again out loud but I think too man we have to ask ourselves what are we getting counsel about because I think there's some things where you're not going to necessarily get the answer that you're looking for even if you do seek out a multitude of counil for sure right for instance if I want to move doesn't matter I move where am I going what's the destination that I'm trying to hit what am I trying what's my aim and I think the thing that we've allowed culture and Society to inundate our minds with the idea that we need to become what culture and Society wants us to become but our aim and our Mark and our goal in life is to be image bearers of the true and the Living God right and so if anything in which you're doing is out alignment with that then it's not of God therefore you should get the wisdom and counsel from others when you begin to step outside of that aim that Target that Mark yeah and I think for me man it's like we overco complicate some things that are really simple man dude it doesn't matter if you work at Chick-fil-A or McDonald's dude like you don't need to get wisdom or counsel about that apply for a job pay your bills what it's not going to kill you are you still serving the lord are you still spreading the gospel as long as these things are still happening you're in a good place yeah that's really good man we're going to have to pick up this discussion again soon