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Rebuilding Life After Addiction · March 10, 2025 · 36:38

Ben Fuller Testimony: From Cocaine Addiction to Worship

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Fourteen years of addiction, a best friend lost to overdose, and the single worship service that turned Ben Fuller's life around. The full conversation, recorded before a live event in Winchester, Virginia.

Key takeaways

  • Addiction is a worship disorder. We're always worshiping something, and substances become a counterfeit for what only God fills.
  • One praying friend can change the trajectory of a life. Ben's friend Paul prayed for him secretly for years.
  • Salvation doesn't end the loneliness. Ben lost most of his friends after giving his life to Jesus, and the follow-through is where freedom is built or lost.
  • Identity in Christ replaces the identity addiction built. The song wasn't just a song. It was God telling Ben who he really is.
  • Prison ministry is producing real fruit. Violence, suicides, and fights drop when the gospel enters these spaces.
Christian artist Ben Fuller sharing his addiction recovery testimony on the Rebuilding Life After Addiction podcast

About Ben Fuller

Ben Fuller is a Christian recording artist who spent fourteen years in cocaine and alcohol addiction before surrendering his life to Jesus at a church in Franklin, Tennessee in 2019. Raised on a dairy farm in Vermont, one of the least churched states in America, he carried a father wound and an emptiness that drugs, alcohol, and chasing music in Nashville never filled. After his best friend died of an overdose and his own attempts to quit on willpower failed, a praying family and a single worship service changed everything. Today Ben tours, leads worship, and ministers inside prisons with God Behind Bars and Prison Fellowship. His song "Who Am I" has been streamed over 20 million times, and his album "Deeper Still" reflects the identity he found in Christ.

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When Ben Fuller agreed to come to Winchester, Virginia for a fundraising event at Shenandoah Valley Teen Challenge, I figured we'd get a solid evening of worship and maybe a few good moments for social media. What I didn't expect was to sit across from a man who'd put words to almost everything I've watched families walk through for the last two decades.

The evening was electric. Ben led worship in front of a crowd that knew the weight of addiction firsthand. Winchester and Frederick County have been gutted by the opioid crisis. Conservative estimates put 50,000 people in this region battling substance abuse. Double it and you're probably closer to the truth.

Before the event we sat down to record an episode of the Rebuilding Life After Addiction podcast. What came out wasn't polished. It was raw. Fourteen years of cocaine and alcohol. The best friend who died from the same drugs Ben was using. The single worship service that changed the direction of his life.

If you've ever loved someone who seemed too far gone, this one is for you.

The Wound That Started It All

Ben grew up in Vermont on a dairy farm. Only son, one sister, at his father's side constantly. Throwing hay bales, running chores, rushing from the barn to football practice and back. From the outside it looked like character being built.

Underneath it was a question that never got answered.

"All I wanted to do was know that he loved me," Ben said. "I think that's what I missed most as a kid growing up. Not hearing 'I love you.'"

He could outwork all his buddies. Captain of the football team. Everything going for him on the outside, completely empty on the inside.

"I didn't know that hole in my heart was something that only God could fill."

Ben calls it generational hurt handed down. Grandpa to dad to him. Nobody knew any different, so they passed along the only thing they had. That's how it goes until something interrupts the cycle. For Ben, the interruption was Jesus. This is the part most people miss about addiction. It's rarely just about the substance. It's about what the substance is covering. Scripture has more to say about that than most of us were taught, and it's worth sitting with what the Bible actually says about addiction.

The Slide Into Addiction

Like most of us, Ben didn't wake up one day and decide to wreck his life.

It started quietly, between 16 and 18. He got to a place dark enough that he attempted suicide and couldn't go through with it.

"I was just too scared to pull the trigger. I kind of saw the flash of the funeral line, the flash of friends and family, and I was like, 'Man, I'm not ready. I can't do this.'"

Not long after, a different escape showed up. Cocaine. Alcohol. Sex.

"I just began to disappear in plain sight."

He found friends who loved cocaine too. One of them, his best friend Ryan, would become the reminder of where that road ends. They used together for about ten years.

December 16, 2017

"Ryan's dead. December 16th, 2017. He's no longer here. Him and I used for 10 years. Why am I still here? Why is he dead? Why did he overdose and not me? We were doing the same drugs."

After Ryan died, Ben tried to quit on his own strength.

"I said, 'I'll never use again, I'll never drink again. It just killed my best friend.' Two months later, I'm drinking 20 beers a night again."

He kept believing the lie. If I just cut back. If I just move. If I just change this one thing, I'll be fine.

It never worked. It never does. After years of watching people cycle through recovery, I can tell you willpower has a shelf life. Sobriety on its own won't save anybody. You can white-knuckle a few weeks, maybe a few months. But without something deeper, without someone greater, the same bondage finds its way back in.

1,250 Miles to Nashville

When we're miserable, we tell ourselves a new location will fix it.

Ben did what a lot of dreamers do. He moved to Nashville in the fall of 2018. Left landscaping and stone walls and Vermont behind to chase music and a fresh start.

He's brutally honest about what actually happened.

"That addiction followed me 1,250 miles all the way down to Nashville."

You can swap states, jobs, relationships, friend groups. If the heart doesn't change, the same bondage follows. Geography can't heal spiritual slavery. I've watched it play out dozens of times. Families scrape together money to send a son or daughter somewhere new, hoping distance will do what surrender hasn't. The zip code changes. The chains don't.

The Dinner Invitation

Here's where you see God's sovereignty up close.

A family from Vermont, the Davenports, had moved to Nashville a year before Ben did. He barely knew them. He'd landscaped with their son, met them at a hospital after some freak incident, seen them show up at bars and restaurants to support his music. A sweet family that kept showing up.

After they settled in Tennessee, they reached out with a simple question on a Saturday night in the fall of 2019.

"Ben Fuller, will you come for dinner?"

He came for the food.

"They loved me just the way that I was. They loved me just the way that Jesus does. They didn't judge anything. My language, I had beers, I remember drinking beers over there. I couldn't be myself without alcohol."

At the end of the meal, one more question.

"Will you come to church with us in the morning?"

Simple invitation. God used it to change everything.

November 3, 2019

The next morning Ben walked into Church of the City in Franklin, Tennessee.

What broke through first wasn't a sermon or a theology lesson or a slick presentation. It was worship.

"I walked in there and I heard the music. Again, here comes the music. It rose up inside of me, and I just ran into the auditorium and stood there in the aisle."

"As a man who'd been living his life as a secret drug addict hiding in plain sight, I'd never been higher."

Romans 10:9 flooded his mind. Believe in your heart and confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord, and you'll be saved.

"I cried out. I said, 'Jesus, help me. I need Your help. I don't even know who You are, I don't even know what this is right now, but everybody's hands up, the music playing.'"

John Reddick was on stage singing "God Turn It Around."

"I surrendered. I said, 'I'm done running.' And He did. He turned my life around."

What Nobody Talks About

We celebrate the altar moment. We share the testimony. We cheer.

We don't talk enough about the next day.

Ben doesn't dodge it.

"No one talks about this either, but I felt it. I was probably lonelier than I'd ever been in a really long time after I gave my life to Jesus. It was lonely."

"All my friends, bye. 'What are you doing, Ben? Are you brainwashed? Jesus? Worship? God?' I've still got lots of friends I haven't heard from, don't talk to anymore, gone away, blame me, whatever it is."

Even family didn't fully understand what had happened. He had Jesus, and his old world was crumbling at the same time.

This is where so many people fall through the cracks. The altar moment is real, but the follow-through is where freedom gets built or lost. The spiritual high fades and the hard work of rebuilding starts, and without people who refuse to leave you alone, the old life has a gravitational pull that's tough to resist. I wrote more about that stretch and why it breaks so many people in what happens when treatment ends.

The Davenports wouldn't leave Ben alone. They kept inviting him back. They kept inviting him over.

The Man With the Towel

"You know who was there at my baptism with a towel? My best friend Paul. He landscaped with me for most of my life. I had no idea that he was secretly praying for me every day."

"I would show up hungover, and he was there to wrap me with a towel and say, 'Welcome to the family. I've been praying for you your whole life.'"

Paul told Ben something that still moves him. "I thought you were hopeless. I thought my prayers were never going to be answered."

These were people from Vermont, a state that's only 2 to 4 percent Christian. The Lord still found the people in that community to pray for Ben before Ben knew what prayer was.

If you're praying for someone right now and it feels pointless, keep going. You don't know what seeds you're planting. You don't know who else God has positioned around them. The work of loving an addict usually happens in the dark, long before the breakthrough. If you've run out of words for it, here's help for how to pray for an addict you love.

Identity: The Song God Used to Tell Ben Who He Was

If you know Ben Fuller, you've probably heard his breakthrough song about identity in Christ, "Who Am I." It's been streamed more than 20 million times, but for Ben it was never a career moment.

Ben says God gave him that song to tell him who he was now.

"We wrote it in under an hour. It was special and powerful, and we had no idea what was gonna come out of it."

Later, especially during his first headline tour, the Holy Spirit pressed the message deeper.

"He really showed me. He was telling you your identity from that day forward. Now you're no longer a drug addict, you're no longer an alcoholic, you're no longer a womanizer. No, you're a child of mine. And I love you."

Night after night he stands on stage and declares that truth. Not just over the crowd, over his own mind.

"I'm a child of the Most High God, and the Most High God is for me."

"I'm not thinking, 'Where am I gonna get my next fix tomorrow?' No, I'm speaking life over myself, which is so important because it's so easy to get down, so easy to fall back into the ditch."

This is the core of what I call the Robe phase of recovery. Who you are matters more than what you did. The Father doesn't hand you a servant's uniform when you come home. He throws a robe over your shoulders. That's identity, and it's the whole foundation of freedom after addiction. We went deep on that picture in a full episode too, the robe, the ring, and the sandals.

Music does that. It reaches what a sermon sometimes can't. If a song has ever caught you off guard and said the thing you couldn't say yourself, these eight songs for addiction recovery are worth a listen.

From Addiction to Prison Ministry

God has taken Ben's story into some of the hardest places in America. Prisons.

He partners with ministries like God Behind Bars and Prison Fellowship, bringing worship and the gospel into facilities like San Quentin and Louisiana State Penitentiary.

He says something a lot of church folks don't want to admit.

"I have more church in prison than I do in church, to be honest with you. Those guys are sold out. They're looking. They're receiving, they're humble, they're honest."

Why? Because a lot of men on the inside are done pretending. Tired of the life that put them there. Desperate for real hope, not clichés.

Ben knows he could've been on the other side of those bars.

"I never got caught. I was the guy that never got busted. My favorite thing was drinking and driving. I'd park my truck and have no idea where it was. No idea how I got home, or how I didn't swerve and kill somebody or myself."

"So God caught me on the outside so that He could send me in."

Contentment Over Platform

We live in a platform-obsessed world. Even in ministry it's easy to chase numbers, stages, followers, reach.

God has opened wild doors for Ben. Christian radio. The Grand Ole Opry. CMA Fest in front of 50,000 people. Red Rocks, twice in one year.

Here's what's changed. He's not chasing it anymore.

"I set out for my own fame and my own things when I went to Nashville with a 12-pack in the passenger seat. I wanted to sing about country music and beer joints."

"But if you're content with Christ, then you're content. Just leave it at that. God, whatever else You do is awesome."

If your heart isn't content in Christ, no stage or stream count or chart position will ever be enough. The finish line just keeps moving. This is why I keep saying sobriety isn't the same as peace. You can hit every external marker and still run on empty. Freedom isn't the absence of substances. It's the presence of something greater.

What Ben's Story Means for You

If you're in addiction right now, here's the truth. Addiction is an escape, not a solution. A new state, a new job, new relationships won't fix what's broken inside. It'll follow you.

You can't white-knuckle your way to freedom. Ben tried after Ryan died. Two months later he was back to 20 beers a night. When people tell him they're doing sobriety on their own, he says, "Good luck. I don't believe in luck, but good luck. Because you ain't gonna do it for much longer. I don't care how strong you are, how tough you are. If you don't have a Savior, if you don't have Jesus."

You need Jesus, and you need people. Ben had both. The living Christ who met him in worship, and believers like the Davenports and Paul who refused to walk away. Surrender to Jesus plus real Christ-centered community. That's where transformation actually happens.

If you're praying for your own Ben, maybe a son, daughter, sibling, or friend who looks hardened or numb or completely uninterested in God, don't stop. Don't stop loving them. Don't underestimate one meal, one invitation, one act of stubborn grace.

The people who thought Ben Fuller was a lost cause are watching him preach and sing the gospel in places they may never set foot. Paul prayed for years and thought he was too far gone. God proved him wrong.

If today is the day you're done running, we can help you take the next step. Call or text 540-213-0571. It's free and confidential.

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This interview was recorded before a live event at Shenandoah Valley Teen Challenge in Winchester, Virginia. Watch the full conversation above, or listen wherever you get your podcasts.

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Frequently Asked Questions About Ben Fuller's Testimony

What is Ben Fuller's testimony? Ben Fuller spent fourteen years in cocaine and alcohol addiction, lost his best friend to an overdose, and tried to quit on his own strength and failed. Then a family from Vermont invited him to church one Sunday morning in Franklin, Tennessee, and he surrendered his life to Jesus during worship. He now leads worship, tours, and ministers in prisons.

Where is Ben Fuller from? Ben grew up on a dairy farm in Vermont, one of the least churched states in America. He moved to Nashville in 2018 to chase music, and that's where his life turned around a year later.

Was Ben Fuller ever in jail? No. Ben is open that in fourteen years of addiction he never got arrested, even though he put himself in dangerous situations like drinking and driving. He believes God protected him from prison on the outside so he could one day walk back in as a free man with the gospel.

Does Ben Fuller do prison ministry? Yes. Ben partners with God Behind Bars and Prison Fellowship, bringing worship and the gospel into facilities like San Quentin and Louisiana State Penitentiary. He says he often finds more honest, hungry faith inside prison than he does in church.

What does Ben Fuller sing about? His music centers on identity in Christ, his own story, and redemption. His breakthrough song "Who Am I" came out of the truth God spoke over him after addiction. His album "Deeper Still" reflects the same shift, digging into God's word in place of the constant search for the next fix.

How did Ben Fuller get sober? Not through willpower. He tried that after his best friend died and was back to drinking heavily within two months. What changed everything was surrender to Jesus combined with real Christ-centered community, the family who kept inviting him in and the friend who'd been praying for him in secret for years.

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Growing Up on a Vermont Dairy Farm

Justin: I'm excited to have this conversation. It's fun to sit down with people who have similar backgrounds and similar stories. We were riding through town earlier and you were talking about your upbringing, coming up in Vermont on a dairy farm. How did that shape who you became, and when did music start to become part of your life?

Ben: Growing up in Vermont was beautiful. It's a lot like Virginia, mountainous and cold and beautiful. But Vermont is 2% Christian, maybe 4% now. I never got brought to church. My parents didn't go, and if you don't know, you don't go.

I grew up with lots of hard work. I was the only son. My sister did dance and gymnastics, but I was forced to be at my father's side all the time. I was constantly trying to prove that I could do it, that I could complete the job, that I could be his son. Being a dairy farmer's son is no small task.

All I wanted was to know that he loved me. That's what I missed most growing up, not hearing "I love you." That was a hard thing for me.

Justin: So when you were working, getting the task done, it was never quite good enough? There wasn't any approval when you completed things?

Ben: The work ethic was there. I could outwork all my buddies. I was captain of the football team. I had all these things going for me on the outside. I'd get done throwing hay bales, then go to practice, rinse and repeat. But on the inside I was completely broken, completely empty. I didn't know that hole in my heart was something only God could fill, and I searched high and low for it.

Generations of Hurt

Justin: You use a phrase, "generations of hurt." Right now you're talking about the dynamic between you and your dad. When you say generations, what do you mean?

Ben: Grandpa passed it down to Dad, Dad passed it down to me. We didn't know any different. Nobody knew any different. What somebody learns, they hand down again, until something changes, until something is interrupted. Now my life has been interrupted by Jesus. So I'm able to take that and hand something else down.

I'm taking what I was handed, turning around, realizing I have Christ, and now I can hand that back to my dad. I'm able to show my father this love and say I love you. And I've heard "I love you" from my dad's lips. He said it to me. It's amazing.

He watches and listens to podcasts like this. He listens to Big Daddy Weave and Zach Williams, because he's like, my son is now on Christian radio, I might hear him on there. He's proud of me. My relationship with my dad has become so special, watching what the Lord has restored, all the locust years of my life.

When Music Came In

Justin: Coming from a family that didn't talk about Jesus, in a very secular community, where did music get introduced into your life? Was that recent, or from a young age?

Ben: From a young age. I used to sing to pass the time, and honestly when I was tired of work and didn't feel like working. Then, doing research on music later, I realized how powerful it is, how it can take you from one place to another. That's why Negro spirituals have hit me so hard. Servant slaves used to sing those songs to take them out of the pain they were in.

Now I realize the times I didn't want to be doing what I was doing, singing to take me out of those places, I was actually connecting with God. I had no idea I was. Now that I've been saved I can look back and go, you were there the whole time. You were there from the beginning. You already knew I'd go through all these struggles and trials, so that ultimately I'd praise you and give you the glory for all of it. You were the only one that came in, once I figured out Jesus was more than a swear word in my mouth, that he was actually my savior.

Addiction as a Worship Disorder

Justin: I heard somebody describe addiction as a worship disorder, and that's stuck with me, because we're always worshiping something. Music was created to worship God, that's where it all came from. So where did that disorder of your worship start? You're into music, singing to pull yourself out of pain, but when did the enemy start to introduce substances and shift your worship to something destructive?

Ben: Between 16 and 18 years old. I attempted suicide, and I was just too scared to pull the trigger. I saw the flash of the funeral line, the flash of friends and family, and I was like, I'm not ready, I can't do this.

Not long after, I got introduced to cocaine, alcohol, and sex, all the things that come with it. I began to escape. I began to disappear in plain sight, and it was so easy to do. Then I found buddies who loved cocaine too.

Losing Ryan

Ben: My best friend Ryan is dead. December 16th, 2017. He's no longer here. He and I used for ten years. Why am I still here? Why is he dead? Why did he overdose and not me? We were doing the same drugs. I could have easily snorted or shot up, and it was him. I realized God had other plans for me, but I didn't understand it in that moment, and my addiction carried on for fourteen and a half years. I still couldn't stop it on my own.

That's why when I meet people who say they're sober and doing it on their own, I say, well, good luck. I don't believe in luck, but good luck, because you're not going to do it for much longer. You're going to run out. I don't care how strong you are, how tough you are, if you don't have a savior, if you don't have Jesus.

Justin: When Ryan passed, was that a catalyst for change, or did you escape further before you realized there was something different for your life?

Ben: I said I'll never use again, I'll never drink again, this just killed my best friend. That hit home. Two months later I'm drinking 20 beers a night again. It wears off. You think, that was a couple months ago, time heals, and you realize, well, maybe I'll be fine if I just have a couple. Maybe I'll be fine if I do a little cocaine. And you slip right back into that same old rut.

1,250 Miles to Nashville

Ben: I took that addiction, and this is big, it followed me 1,250 miles all the way down to Nashville, Tennessee. In the fall of 2018, one year after Ryan passed, I decided to move. I was landscaping, building stone walls, digging holes, planting trees, and I was good at it, but I felt a calling for something more. I didn't know what it was. I'd always loved music, and the music started rising up again, this time to take to Nashville.

Justin: How do you describe that to somebody, that inner voice you now know was the voice of God directing your steps? For an addict who's trapped, how did you discern that?

Ben: The Bible talks about the still small voice, and it really was still and small. It was calm but convicting. I've got to go, I need to go. Everybody listening knows that point of, okay, enough is enough. Let's face it, the drugs are never going to be enough. My dad always said, which has stuck with me, Budweiser is going to keep making beer, Ben. Now I look back, out of addiction, and go, yeah, they will. The drugs are going to keep coming.

Right around when Ryan passed, this big fentanyl thing took over. When I started doing cocaine, fentanyl wasn't even a concern. It's a different world now. Back in the day you'd have a lifelong drug addict. That's not the case anymore. You'll die. A hundred thousand people in the last year, something to that effect. It's heartbreaking.

Justin: It's the lies we tell ourselves. This time's going to be different. I'll drink a little but I won't go back to hard drugs. I'll smoke the meth but I won't shoot it. And the finish line keeps getting further out.

The Dinner Invitation

Justin: So the Lord is speaking to you, still small voice, and there's an internal battle. What happened in Nashville? You ended up in a church. How did that take place?

Ben: He sent a family from Vermont a year before I got there. The Davenport family. They got established, their kids went to school. I barely knew them. I'd landscaped with their son, had kind of a freak incident, met them at the hospital. They'd come out and support me at bars and restaurants, sit in the corner, this sweet family that would just come and support me. God had moved them to Nashville.

They called me one fall day in 2019. They got my number and said, "Ben Fuller, will you come for dinner?" I said yeah, I'm hungry, I love food. So I went to this meal, and at the end they asked, "Will you come to church with us in the morning?" It was a Saturday night.

I'll never forget, they loved me just the way I was. They loved me just the way Jesus does. They didn't judge anything. My language, I had beers, I remember drinking beers over there. I couldn't be myself without alcohol.

The Morning Everything Changed

Ben: I went to Church of the City in Franklin, Tennessee the next morning. I walked in and I heard the music. So powerful. It rose up inside of me and I just ran into the auditorium and stood there in the aisle. The music spoke to me. The only way I can explain it is my feet came off the ground. As a man who'd been living as a secret drug addict hiding in plain sight, I'd never been higher.

I'm like, this is what I want, this is what I need. I'm going to sing about Jesus Christ for the rest of my life. I have no idea what that looks like or sounds like, I don't even know how to do it, but I want this.

Romans 10:9 says believe in your heart and confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ is Lord, and if you believe God raised him from the dead, you'll be saved. So I cried out. I said, Jesus, help me. I need your help. I don't even know who you are, I don't even know what this is right now, but everybody's hands up, the music playing.

Justin: Do you remember the sermon that day?

Ben: John Reddick was on stage singing "God Turn It Around." Give me a break. God turned my life around. I surrendered. I said, I'm done running.

The Loneliness Nobody Talks About

Justin: Fast forward to the end of the service. You've had this encounter with Jesus, you're ready to roll. What happened the next day?

Ben: John Eckhardt with Recovery Alive has a whole chapter in his book about life after the altar call. We have these moments, they're real, they're powerful, I feel ready to conquer the world. And the minute I step out of the church, the world is ready to conquer me.

Honestly, no one talks about this, but I felt it. I was probably lonelier than I'd been in a really long time after I gave my life to Jesus. It was lonely. All my friends, bye. "What are you doing, Ben? Are you brainwashed? Jesus? Worship? God?" People freaked out. I've still got lots of friends I haven't heard from, don't talk to anymore, gone away, blame me, whatever it is. And I love them still. God had other plans, and I couldn't continue down the path I was on.

The Bible says if you're not in my name, you either gather or scatter. So I start speaking his name and people are either coming or running. Everything changed. Even my family was like, are you sure?

Justin: How was that for you? Some people do really well, the community changes, they're okay. Others wrestle with seeing all their friends stripped away.

Ben: It's hard. They give you a Bible and smack you on the backside and say, praise God, you're saved, another salvation today. I'm grateful for the Davenport family. They wouldn't leave me alone. They kept inviting me back, kept inviting me over. Then more people started reaching out, and I became public about it. I said, I don't care, I'm going to profess my faith out loud.

The Man With the Towel

Ben: I got baptized November 10th, 2019, and I posted it online. People started coming out. You know who was there at my baptism with a towel? My best friend Paul. He landscaped with me for most of my life, and I had no idea he was secretly praying for me every day. I would show up hungover, and he was there to wrap me with a towel and say, welcome to the family. I've been praying for you your whole life.

He said, "I thought you were hopeless. I thought my prayers were never going to be answered." What a testimony of faith. And I've had people all along the way saying, me too, me too, I was praying also. These are people from Vermont, that non-Christian community, 2%. The Lord managed to find the people in that community to pray for Ben before Ben even knew what prayer was.

Justin: Think about the people listening right now with no hope, who have somebody they don't even know who's been praying for their salvation. Isn't that a call to action for the body of Christ? How many Bens have had a radical moment at a church service, but there wasn't a Davenport family praying, ready to wrap the towel around them?

Into the Prisons

Justin: I know you do prison ministry. How did the Lord lead your steps into the jails? Nobody wants to go there.

Ben: I think he led me there because I never got caught. I was the guy who never got busted. My favorite thing was drinking and driving. I have no idea how many times I'd park my truck and have no idea where it was, no idea how I got home, or how I didn't swerve and kill somebody or myself. Just dents on my truck the next day. It's insane that he was protecting me the whole time. I never got caught, so God caught me on the outside so he could send me in.

Now I'm inside these walls going, what am I doing in here? And he's shown me, these are the places you could have been. But you can also see that my Spirit knows no boundaries, that I go behind those walls, behind those bars, no matter how thick.

Justin: Inside the prisons it becomes church. Is there more to that ministry? Talk about the recidivism, the positive outcomes.

Ben: I have more church in prison than I do in church, to be honest. Those guys are sold out and they're tired. They're looking, they're ready, they're receiving, they're humble, they're honest. It's blown my mind. Not to say people in church aren't like that, but I've seen a higher amount of folks who are willing, who respect it and want to listen.

I've been going in with God Behind Bars, and recently Prison Fellowship. We were just at San Quentin, and Louisiana State Penitentiary, Angola. Really powerful. We're baptizing these guys. They're falling in the water, coming in saying, I want this kind of peace, this kind of love, sign me up, I'm ready, I've got nothing left. The Bible says in your weakness he is strong. So they're saying, I'm the weakest I've ever been, I need strength right now.

It was the most incredible thing I've ever witnessed, a massive move of the Spirit. The Holy Spirit takes over these chapels in these prisons, and violence at all levels goes down. The wardens love us. They're dealing with fewer suicides, fewer stabbings, fewer fights. They say, come back anytime. We've got a few more prisons on the books this year. Here I am, Lord, send me.

"Who Am I" and Identity

Justin: Your song "Who Am I," 20 million streams. You weren't pushing for that. What does that reflect about your journey? We live in a world that chases platform, and there's a tension in ministry, I've got to be heard, people have to hear the gospel.

Ben: He gave me that song to tell me my identity. We wrote it in under an hour. It was special and powerful, and we had no idea what was going to come out of it. It felt weird, I still wasn't sure. I've sung it I don't know how many times now.

On my first headline tour, the "If I Got Jesus" tour, the first few nights out, I really felt the Holy Spirit say, I was telling you your identity from that day forward. You're no longer a drug addict, no longer an alcoholic, no longer a womanizer. You're a child of mine, and I love you. You've turned your life around, you've come back to me, and I've got you.

To speak that over everybody in the crowd and over myself, night after night. I'm a child of the Most High God, and the Most High God is for me. Not, where am I going to get my next fix, I need to stop for more beer. No, I'm speaking life over myself. It's so important, because it's so easy to get down, so easy to fall back into the ditch. He told me my identity, and it's the truth.

Contentment Over Platform

Ben: I'm grateful, and it's all still crazy. I set out for my own fame when I went to Nashville with a 12-pack in the passenger seat, wanting to sing about country music and beer joints. It's crazy to watch how God brings it all around full circle. I played CMA Fest with Jo Dee Messina in front of 50,000 people, singing about Jesus and how he got a hold of me. The Grand Ole Opry, all the rest. I'm playing Red Rocks twice this year.

But that's not it. You reach that, then what? Then you want to play in front of 500,000 people. So if you're content with Christ, you're content. Just leave it at that. God, whatever else you do is awesome.

Deeper Still

Justin: You've got a new song dropping at midnight tonight, and a new album coming. Talk about that.

Ben: It's called "Deeper Still." I'm really grateful for it, and still trying to process what God is going to do with it. His love goes deeper still. Keep digging. In my world I was digging for the wrong things, a shovel in my hand digging dirt, traveling down the wrong paths. Once I realized this is where I need to be digging, in the word of God, after him, reading daily, it's amazing how it fills me up. The smallest bit of digging in his word can fill me up for the whole day, when before I was aimlessly wandering and searching.

Even my social media was all about how many followers, how much reach. The label says, keep your presence up, and management's trying to keep me on it. But now, when the Holy Spirit prompts me to post, I'll post. The scrolling thing is endless. If it ain't Jesus, it ain't working.

Closing

Justin: I appreciate you taking the time. I'm excited for the concert this evening and the worship event with Teen Challenge, you coming out to support TC and this community. There are so many here who are hurting. Winchester, Frederick County, the Shenandoah Valley has been ravaged with addiction. 50,000 people in our community battling, and that's just the people who told the truth.

Ben: We can assume that number is doubled, because I know who I was before Christ. Paul said apart from Christ my flesh can do no good. So we need to be praying for them to come forward and be honest. What are you running from? Where are you going? What's next?

Teen Challenge is amazing. I love them. There's a Teen Challenge in Vermont. I'm honored, honestly, because you make me feel less alone. You make me feel like, God can, he's done it for you, he's done it for me. Even talking to you, I feel less alone. He's still working, because there are days I'm struggling big time, like, is this even worth it, should I even keep singing. So tonight's going to be special, surrounded by people who love Jesus more than me.

Justin: Amen. Thanks for being here, brother.

Justin Franich, Executive Director of Shenandoah Valley Adult Teen Challenge

Justin Franich

Justin Franich is a former meth addict, Teen Challenge graduate, and pastor who has been clean since 2005. Today he's a husband, father, and Executive Director of Shenandoah Valley Adult Teen Challenge. He hosts the Rebuilding Life After Addiction podcast and helps families across the U.S. navigate faith-based recovery options, compare programs, and rebuild life after addiction.

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